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New Piece Lorraine Vase
Hi everyone here is a cool vase my buddy gave me today :)looks nice with the chalet twist vase, until I put it next to the orange one today
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gorgeous Lorraine piece
Hey,
Love the vase - take a look at the colour placement:) Chalet and Lorraine did opposites. They did this style in a "mini" version as well which is to die for.
Deborah
Love the vase - take a look at the colour placement:) Chalet and Lorraine did opposites. They did this style in a "mini" version as well which is to die for.
Deborah
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Hi again thanks for having a look now I see what you mean one is green to blue and the other is the opposite good eye I didn't catch that
Who made the mini version ???
Who made the mini version ???
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minis
Hey,
Lorraine actually had a production line of minis - I have the catalogue page. Whereas Chalet's "picolli" pieces (little ones) were made at end of day to use up colour and crystal. I have an EDAG stickered piece which is also a mini so they did small pieces too but I have no idea if that was a common practice for them. Have a picture coming from my photographer, had a photo shoot in February, of a Chalet picolli, and my EDAG piece and one of the production piece Lorraine minis. Will post it here when I get it.
Deborah
Lorraine actually had a production line of minis - I have the catalogue page. Whereas Chalet's "picolli" pieces (little ones) were made at end of day to use up colour and crystal. I have an EDAG stickered piece which is also a mini so they did small pieces too but I have no idea if that was a common practice for them. Have a picture coming from my photographer, had a photo shoot in February, of a Chalet picolli, and my EDAG piece and one of the production piece Lorraine minis. Will post it here when I get it.
Deborah
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Mini pieces
Ok that's great can't wait to see them. Were the Lorraine minis like the chalet picollis ?
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Re: New Piece Lorraine Vase
Hi again,
Lorraine minis were versions of their larger production pieces - the catalogue page on which they are featured is part of a catalogue showing many other production pieces - not a special edition. Chalet minis were much more fanciful and very rarely were just smaller versions of production pieces. However, I have had a Chalet crossed fingers, cigar bowl and a basket that were just smaller versions of the typical Chalet pieces and am posting pics here of them. The artists told me that very often they were made for wives or girlfriends and were "pretty little dust catchers" in their words. Often not signed as they were "under the coat pieces" - again their words. If you do find a small marked Chalet picolli - obviously the artist did not covet it and it went to the first floor for marking.
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Lorraine minis were versions of their larger production pieces - the catalogue page on which they are featured is part of a catalogue showing many other production pieces - not a special edition. Chalet minis were much more fanciful and very rarely were just smaller versions of production pieces. However, I have had a Chalet crossed fingers, cigar bowl and a basket that were just smaller versions of the typical Chalet pieces and am posting pics here of them. The artists told me that very often they were made for wives or girlfriends and were "pretty little dust catchers" in their words. Often not signed as they were "under the coat pieces" - again their words. If you do find a small marked Chalet picolli - obviously the artist did not covet it and it went to the first floor for marking.
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Pictures
Love the pictures
The cross arm one's look great together how big are they ?
The cross arm one's look great together how big are they ?
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Re: New Piece Lorraine Vase
Hi,
sorry - don't have either piece anymore. But I would say the blue was typical at about 19 inches while the cranberry would have been about 12 inches - significantly smaller. When you see the cranberry used for the heavy leaded pieces - again, an end of day piece. The artists were absolutely amazed when I told them that these pieces are so sought after and command such high prices as they were considered and marketed as seconds by Chalet.
Deborah
sorry - don't have either piece anymore. But I would say the blue was typical at about 19 inches while the cranberry would have been about 12 inches - significantly smaller. When you see the cranberry used for the heavy leaded pieces - again, an end of day piece. The artists were absolutely amazed when I told them that these pieces are so sought after and command such high prices as they were considered and marketed as seconds by Chalet.
Deborah
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Cranberry
Sorry a bit lost lol
Cranberry pieces were made at the end of the day ?
And were all picollis signed ? no right
Cranberry pieces were made at the end of the day ?
And were all picollis signed ? no right
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Re: New Piece Lorraine Vase
Hey,
The molded production cranberry pieces - the "Canadiana Cranberry Glass" line were production glass. The heavy freeform stretch cranberry pieces were not production pieces and were made, like picolli pieces, to use up colour and crystal.
All picolli were not signed - depending on whether or not it "went home" with an artist or was turned in to become part of inventory.
Deborah
The molded production cranberry pieces - the "Canadiana Cranberry Glass" line were production glass. The heavy freeform stretch cranberry pieces were not production pieces and were made, like picolli pieces, to use up colour and crystal.
All picolli were not signed - depending on whether or not it "went home" with an artist or was turned in to become part of inventory.
Deborah
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Ok got you now I didn't know that the large cranberry pieces were end of day thanks for the info love knowledge
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Re: New Piece Lorraine Vase
Hey,
I was so lucky to spend time with the artists doing the exhibit and my books. They were generous and thrilled that there was so much interest in what they had done. I just wish that I had been a "professional interviewer" as so much that I learned did not occur through "question and answer" sessions but through just spending time with them.
For example - the day that I took them for their studio shots in Cornwall for "The Shapes and Colours of Chalet Art Glass", I had arranged to also pick up a "pink" free form long arm stretch from a New York e-bay seller that was visiting her aunt in a Cornwall nursing home. Anyways, I happened to mention how much my daughter loved 'pink" Chalet. They looked at each other and said "Chalet didn't do pink." I said "Yes they did - I have a signed piece in my car." They responded "No you don't" so I went out and got it. When they saw it, they shrugged and said "That's just a cranberry second." Finding out that "purple" Chalet pieces were a bugger up happened much the same way with them.
Like I said - they were amazing. Not only with sharing stories but with the pricing they gave me, the pictures and the catalogue pages. I was so happy to include them in the books. So little concrete knowledge about Chalet - was so thrilled to spread it around.
Here is that "pink" stretch
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Deborah
I was so lucky to spend time with the artists doing the exhibit and my books. They were generous and thrilled that there was so much interest in what they had done. I just wish that I had been a "professional interviewer" as so much that I learned did not occur through "question and answer" sessions but through just spending time with them.
For example - the day that I took them for their studio shots in Cornwall for "The Shapes and Colours of Chalet Art Glass", I had arranged to also pick up a "pink" free form long arm stretch from a New York e-bay seller that was visiting her aunt in a Cornwall nursing home. Anyways, I happened to mention how much my daughter loved 'pink" Chalet. They looked at each other and said "Chalet didn't do pink." I said "Yes they did - I have a signed piece in my car." They responded "No you don't" so I went out and got it. When they saw it, they shrugged and said "That's just a cranberry second." Finding out that "purple" Chalet pieces were a bugger up happened much the same way with them.
Like I said - they were amazing. Not only with sharing stories but with the pricing they gave me, the pictures and the catalogue pages. I was so happy to include them in the books. So little concrete knowledge about Chalet - was so thrilled to spread it around.
Here is that "pink" stretch
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Second
Its great that you share and have learned about Chalet to teach others, I thank you for that:)
By saying "Seconds " was that also end of day pieces ?
By saying "Seconds " was that also end of day pieces ?
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"End of Day"/seconds/end of day
Hi,
Chalet had a dedicated "End of Day" line - not made from slag glass but from opaline and cranberry. I do not know why they called it this as is certainly deceptive given what the term usually means with regard to pottery and glass.
"Seconds, in Chalet terminology, means glass that was not up to par just like the industry standard. I have a couple "seconds" - a whale without eye indents, a crystal owl that has a distinct yellow cast from too much lead, a factory repaired piece.............................
Many of the pieces that they made literally at the "end of day" were even nicer than the Chalet standard as they were given a bit of lee way and could be more creative. Hence - many of the piccolo.
Here is a grouping from the "End of Day" line. You can see the hang tag on the pitcher.:
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Deborah
Chalet had a dedicated "End of Day" line - not made from slag glass but from opaline and cranberry. I do not know why they called it this as is certainly deceptive given what the term usually means with regard to pottery and glass.
"Seconds, in Chalet terminology, means glass that was not up to par just like the industry standard. I have a couple "seconds" - a whale without eye indents, a crystal owl that has a distinct yellow cast from too much lead, a factory repaired piece.............................
Many of the pieces that they made literally at the "end of day" were even nicer than the Chalet standard as they were given a bit of lee way and could be more creative. Hence - many of the piccolo.
Here is a grouping from the "End of Day" line. You can see the hang tag on the pitcher.:
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Ok I understand like the clear piece I posted you said it might be a second.
I have one piece of the End of day line
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Re: New Piece Lorraine Vase
Hi,
Good score - that is a super rare marking to have found! I think it's about the 3rd one I've seen - a forum member Thumper (Bob) has a piece with that hang tag and then I have the pitcher but am not sure if I have seen others than that.
Deborah
Good score - that is a super rare marking to have found! I think it's about the 3rd one I've seen - a forum member Thumper (Bob) has a piece with that hang tag and then I have the pitcher but am not sure if I have seen others than that.
Deborah
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Hand Tag
I know it was rare cause I have read about it on the site. When I seen it in the store I was so happy to have found it.
Thanks again have a good day
Thanks again have a good day
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